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Here is the column where we can talk politics. Let it fly my fellow board members!
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izarith
baddeddie wrote
Here is the column where we can talk politics. Let it fly my fellow board members!
BaddEddie

Thanks Baddeddie!

Trump wants Super banks that can operate above any supervision or regulation, he wants more private prisons, war on drugs and complete cart blanch on real estate loans. Basically all the stuff that leads to 2008 but with tasers and rubber bullets everywhere. That is why I call him a prick. And he could give a crap about Mexicans. Did you see any white people at any of his California rallies? All Mexicans both as protesters and as supporters, but he knows those subhuman idiots waving the Mexican flag in America will get you guys going.

Is he better than the known criminal Clinton or mister fantasy land free, free everything Sanders?

That's like trying to decide which corrupt Mexican president you should choose. Or which foot to shoot yourself in. I sure as hell don't know. All I know is that America has joined the club with the rest of the third world on the shit they have to elect and vote for. That's all I'm trying to say.

Good luck with that, but take my advice as a person who lives in a corrupt country and voting is a joke, don't loose any sleep over these elections. The time has come where you have to take responsibility if your children are starving or not. Shit is about to change, and believing in anyone but your own self is suicidal at best.

Get prepared, and just stop believing these sons of bitches, they don't want to help you, they want to help themselves.

Don't be obtuse and miss the forest for the trees. Think clearly, because you lives depend on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2eyq9qTOQY

Izzy.
"be excellent to each other"
_"Bill" S. Preston Esq and "Ted" Theodore Logan.
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Thanks baddeddie! The other thread had become cumbersome at best;)


   "Let it fly my fellow board members!

Come on baddeddie, I hope your not waiting until there's bodies lying everywhere before you come in for the kill, say something political lol.

"Trump wants Super banks that can operate above any supervision or regulation


Izzy, I haven't heard that quote and doubt it exists. Trump is actually no darling of Wall st, that's where his rival HRC gets her money. The bankers have spent untold millions/record amounts on negative ads against him.


"  he wants more private prisons,

Are government prisons better? Perhaps offenders can just sign a sorry book?


"complete cart blanch on real estate loans.

Links there wouldn't be?


"And he could give a crap about Mexicans


He's running for POTUS not President of Mexico! He does employ 1000's of Mexicans. Not sure what angle you see there.



"Is he better than the known criminal Clinton or mister fantasy land free, free everything Sanders?

That's like trying to decide which corrupt Mexican president you should choose.


I don't know how you draw the comparison. He is not a Mexican outlaw the parable/allegory is frankly ridiculous. Evidence not slander.


"All I know is that America has joined the club with the rest of the third world on the shit they have to elect and vote for.


How about that Jeff Sessions for possible VP? Apparently Alex Jones asked Trump's long time friend Roger Stone about him off air, Stone gulped it was said but later on air qualified that even wife Melania wouldn't know and his short list for VP could even be in flux. It's also said that when Sessions speaks, enamoured  Trump starts gritting his teeth and smiles a lot lol. Jeff seems great but agree with you Izzy, a dead rat in a shoe could do a better job than Obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2d8N5psACM


"don't loose any sleep over these elections.

"Get prepared

Likewise going to the Dakotas and building a bug out shelter would be like sticking your head in the sand?  Trump sleeps way less than HRC thankfully, lest we forget Bengazi. Oh and your video was fake surely? HRC supporter videos are a bit scary but I have faith knowing the FBI is still onher case;). Of course the news would be much worse from Africa each day if they "even had newspapers"/tv reporters but what happens in the US will affect them too.













 

 






 



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izarith
jrock wrote
Izzy, I haven't heard that quote and doubt it exists. Trump is actually no darling of Wall st, that's where his rival HRC gets her money. The bankers have spent untold millions/record amounts on negative ads against him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugvvOTwf9hM

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-jeb-hensarling-meet-on-dodd-frank-alternative-1465335535

jrock wrote
Are government prisons better? Perhaps offenders can just sign a sorry book?
Making a profit off of criminal activity tends to create criminals, either by making money as a criminal or by criminalizing everything so you can to keep prison beds full. Think about it, if you make money off of people put in prison, how much money would you make if everything was illegal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaPBcUUqbew


jrock wrote
"complete cart blanch on real estate loans.

Links there wouldn't be?
It's one of the reasons for dismantling of bank regulations. Read the article.


jrock wrote
I don't know how you draw the comparison. He is not a Mexican outlaw the parable/allegory is frankly ridiculous. Evidence not slander.
Mitt Romney, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, all have ties to Mexico or Cuban Mafia. What you think Jeb Bush is married to some poor Mexican maid? You think Mitt's dad was a Mexican car washer that sold gum on the side? Most Americans are very naive and ignorant about just how powerful and influential Most elite Mexican families are. The people are bread from alliances, just like in the old days of kings being pared with Queens.


jrock wrote
Likewise going to the Dakotas and building a bug out shelter would be like sticking your head in the sand?  Trump sleeps way less than HRC thankfully, lest we forget Bengazi. Oh and your video was fake surely? HRC supporter videos are a bit scary but I have faith knowing the FBI is still onher case;). Of course the news would be much worse from Africa each day if they "even had newspapers"/tv reporters but what happens in the US will affect them too.
Yeah because having some extra non perishable bean and rice and water in the house is like totally stupid. Ask anyone who grew up during the depression if being prepared is a bad idea?
Ha, you think that video was fake? You have more faith in Humanity and US public schools than I do.

Hitlery will get a pardon from Obama worst case. But it's all up for grabs and you guys n gals are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Izzy.
"be excellent to each other"
_"Bill" S. Preston Esq and "Ted" Theodore Logan.
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Cutting regulations/red tape is a good thing usually, re the bankers. He is not one of them, Trump made his money from bricks n mortar/construction and you can believe he will go after them. The fact remains they've thrown their all behind HRC or anyone but he.


"Making a profit off of criminal activity tends to create criminals, either by making money as a criminal or by criminalizing everything so you can to keep prison beds full.

Change the "tend" to a sometimes and I'm happy. Private or govt isn't an election issue. Are you saying he'll put more in prison than previous admins?  The wall should see numbers drop and then we can watch private citizens get into space quicker officially as US will be able to afford it. :)


"Mitt Romney, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, all have ties to Mexico or Cuban Mafia. What you think Jeb Bush is married to some poor Mexican maid? You think Mitt's dad was a Mexican car washer that sold gum on the side? Most Americans are very naive and ignorant about just how powerful and influential Most elite Mexican families are. The people are bread from alliances, just like in the old days of kings being pared with Queens.

We weren't talking about those folk. I'm still reading the book "Jeb and the Bush Crime family, it's not a joy to read like Sleeper's are. Poppy 41 bush is as crooked as. Perhaps those souls you mentioned above, chase each other around the galaxy,
intertwining in lives skirting the phantom zone to stir the pot for reasons like to bring out hidden envies, egos and hatred? Like hitler except 21 century edition?
 


"Yeah because having some extra non perishable bean and rice and water in the house is like totally stupid.


I'll give you 21 days tops lol. The Tv shows like Alaskan Bush People are good survivalist shows and at least scenic. Naked and Afraid is getting a bit Hollywood both shows currently running.


"You have more faith in Humanity and US public schools than I do.

Maybe that might be a close call. You've seen first hand how stupid crazy I get because as you said it's all up for grabs this year. Light vs Darkness thingy that was explained in the other thread by Phedre.

"Hitlery will get a pardon from Obama worst case.


I've heard that but Trump with new Supreme court justices will get that job done and Unki Guido will see her to the salt mines eventually? If she gets a pat on the back from her makers and masters in the phantom zone when she crosses over then that's no prize at all. More reincarnations for her are likely as she didn't come out of the "Clinton's war on Women" book looking good at all.

 
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Oh and as Jeff Sessions wasn't to your liking perhaps, I fear he's not Hollywood/media friendly enough, needs fish hooks or something.


Fishing Lures For Bernie Sanders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnGgbxIVsdM
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izarith
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Cutting regulations/red tape is a good thing usually, re the bankers. He is not one of them, Trump made his money from bricks n mortar/construction and you can believe he will go after them. The fact remains they've thrown their all behind HRC or anyone but he.
If you think Trump is not in with the banks it's because you don't understand how real estate works. In essence the modern US real estate market only work with loans. Trump is in the high end luxury market which is about to pop, basically what happened in 2008 is starting to affect the high end now.

I'm not saying Trump is in bed with the banks like Shillery, I'm just saying that anyone, ANYONE, that is involved with real estate somehow depends on loans from a bank. Banks are the bread and butter of booms and defaults are the creators of busts. Forest for the trees Jrock, forest for the trees.

jrock wrote
Change the "tend" to a sometimes and I'm happy. Private or govt isn't an election issue. Are you saying he'll put more in prison than previous admins?  The wall should see numbers drop and then we can watch private citizens get into space quicker officially as US will be able to afford it. :)
Trump is a business man, he makes money. Even Obama felt he needed to pardon prisoners convicted of possession with nonviolent crimes. I don't think a man as hard working and strict as Trump would have much mercy to offer, so yes I imagine Trump would make people make money for someone by putting them in prison.

illegal immigration = undocumented people working low end job, or criminals deported back to their country after generating private incarceration quotas.

Legal immigration = in sourcing.

Competitive = lowering of rights and wages.

Just a little elites lingo translation for the layman.

Private prisons and police =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffyyi6p-jsQ

and

http://oklahomawatch.org/2016/06/07/new-front-in-civil-forfeiture-okla-authorities-get-devices-to-seize-funds-loaded-onto-prepaid-cards/

You let me know when things start sounding like POI...

jrock wrote
We weren't talking about those folk. I'm still reading the book "Jeb and the Bush Crime family, it's not a joy to read like Sleeper's are. Poppy 41 bush is as crooked as. Perhaps those souls you mentioned above, chase each other around the galaxy,
intertwining in lives skirting the phantom zone to stir the pot for reasons like to bring out hidden envies, egos and hatred? Like hitler except 21 century edition?
It's just that people don't seem to understand just how powerful the elite in Mexico are, they are not out and well known, these are smart people who live a life removed from any public scrutiny. Mexico is one of the most stable, unchanging, countries in the world. Yes, it's screwed up and corrupt, but even very powerful countries like the US think twice before dealing with Mexico, because these global players are professional rulers.

You make it seem like Mexican leaders are a joke when in reality Mexico is virtually owned by them, and owning a country outright is not a run of the mill thing to do, it's not easy to make people think Mexico is complete chaos when really it is ordered, structured, and not changing any time soon.


jrock wrote
I'll give you 21 days tops lol. The Tv shows like Alaskan Bush People are good survivalist shows and at least scenic. Naked and Afraid is getting a bit Hollywood both shows currently running.
I'm not talking preper end of the world BS. I'm talking about real shit that is going to go down. Don't think you wont eat those rabbits when the times come J. :)


jrock wrote
Maybe that might be a close call. You've seen first hand how stupid crazy I get because as you said it's all up for grabs this year. Light vs Darkness thingy that was explained in the other thread by Phedre.

I've heard that but Trump with new Supreme court justices will get that job done and Unki Guido will see her to the salt mines eventually? If she gets a pat on the back from her makers and masters in the phantom zone when she crosses over then that's no prize at all. More reincarnations for her are likely as she didn't come out of the "Clinton's war on Women" book looking good at all.
"hope you can believe in", "Make america great gain", "First woman president", It's all a hook. And you bit and will be dragged along with everyone else, all a catch and release.

But hey hopefully you are right and Trump leads the world into a new era of wonderful fluffiness and glory.

Izzy.
"be excellent to each other"
_"Bill" S. Preston Esq and "Ted" Theodore Logan.
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"I'm just saying that anyone, ANYONE, that is involved with real estate somehow depends on loans from a bank. Banks are the bread and butter of booms and defaults are the creators of busts. Forest for the trees Jrock, forest for the trees.
 
Trump is debt free and owes nothing to the banks. In truth they'd fall over themselves to lend money to him. You've eyes but cannot see Izz. Eyes for Hollywood certainly re POI so thanks for bringing that up again.


"Trump is a business man, he makes money.

You have a point thanks for the insight. 10 billion and he needs banks lol

"Even Obama felt he needed to pardon prisoners convicted of possession with nonviolent crimes.

Your saying Obama has pardoned all prisoners in jail for possession?



"I'm not saying Trump is in bed with the banks like Shillery,

It's cool you see the difference.



"I don't think a man as hard working and strict as Trump would have much mercy to offer,


Lol that you don't think a person would have mercy because they work hard. Again with secure borders and more jobs etc, the crime rates will fall.


"You make it seem like Mexican leaders are a joke

You tried to equate them with Trump.



"Don't think you wont eat those rabbits when the times come J. :)

This is past ridiculous, dear leader in Nth Korea informed the people recently that they must be prepared to eat bark n roots, with that input, why would I ever lol


"But hey hopefully you are right and Trump leads the world into a new era of wonderful fluffiness and glory.


He wears a bullet proof vest everywhere in public.. the left hates your fluffiness Izz unfortunately.


Korean Illegal Gets $177,000 Tuition For Free, Hillary Applauds
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EO8NlKrgVo



Video: Alex Jones Flips Out, Is Physically Restrained(1min comedy from today)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkRY_kA2Aaw









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Really, all this fuss over politics? The presidential race breaks down to whether or not you want socialist/communist/Bilderberger NWO globalist governing or Constitutionalism/nationalist type governing. I take the 2nd option and that leaves you no choice but Trump. I agree with Izzy that he is a complete fucking asshole and don't like him one bit.

All the trade agreements have drained from the American bathtub and allowed the corporations to turn their back on who made them great in the first place by shipping jobs overseas.  Trump says he'll end that bullshit.

Border Security: You have no country if it doesn't have borders. Trump say he'll secure the borders. That's what I want.

The only thing wrong with the immigration system is the willful treason acts of not enforcing the policy. 95,000,000 adult age Americans out of the labor force. 65,000,000 immigrants working in this country. Why do we need more immigrants if we can't take care of our own citizenry?

enough for now,
 
BaddEddie
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Trump is debt free and owes nothing to the banks. In truth they'd fall over themselves to lend money to him. You've eyes but cannot see Izz. Eyes for Hollywood certainly re POI so thanks for bringing that up again.
You are not looking at this objectively. The US economy run on dept, credit, with out it the US population has lees than people in Venezuela. In real estate virtually everything runs on credit.

Trump owes about 1 billion in credit/dept. But think about all of his customers that purchase his products on dept.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/donald-trump-debt/

"Through heavy digging, Fortune identified the loans Trump has on these other buildings that are not included on his released balance sheet. Add to the loans and mortgages he does disclose and Fortune has determined that Trump’s total debt balloons to nearly $1 billion, or about double what he specifically acknowledges he owes. And it could be even larger."

"The June balance sheet does list debt of $503 million, which is labeled “loans and mortgages,” a seemingly modest figure for a tycoon of his self-declared “massive” wealth. But a lot more debt is connected to his buildings than Trump is letting on. In fact, Trump is subtracting the mortgage amounts to arrive at the equity figure for some holdings. Others he is presenting at full value. But it appears that only the loans on the properties that are held at full value are making into that $503 million number."

You need to understand how US real estate work Jrock. Banks are his bread and butter.

jrock wrote
You have a point thanks for the insight. 10 billion and he needs banks lol

Your saying Obama has pardoned all prisoners in jail for possession?
Not all but, the 61 who are out must be grateful.

But they, along with many, many more will be back when Trump is in office.

Realistically speaking, millions of lives are ruined in the US on so many legal levels that soon everyone will be a criminal. And as you can see in the links I posted that soon complete extortion will be added in full to the list of injustices.
They are turning Mexican cop corruption into legal practice in the US. That is fucked up.


jrock wrote
Lol that you don't think a person would have mercy because they work hard. Again with secure borders and more jobs etc, the crime rates will fall.


This is past ridiculous, dear leader in Nth Korea informed the people recently that they must be prepared to eat bark n roots, with that input, why would I ever lol


He wears a bullet proof vest everywhere in public.. the left hates your fluffiness Izz unfortunately.

Korean Illegal Gets $177,000 Tuition For Free, Hillary Applauds
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EO8NlKrgVo
The US is stuck with all of those legal immigrants, Illegal immigrants are eventually shipped back if they become criminals.

Has anyone here ever taken the time to think of what would be the benefit of legal immigration? Why would you want 12 million Mexicans legally in your country?

As an example you have some dude you don't want illegally in your house, he is eating your food, watching your TV, sitting in your chair. You have some ground on kicking him out because he is not supposed to be there right? Why would you want to make this fucker legal?

It makes no fucking sense what you people are asking for.

I could understand Trump saying NO MORE IMMIGRANTS of any kind legal or illegal. But , he is not saying that, he is saying the people are going to get in line on on the other side of the wall so we can incorporate them legally into the country and avoid any need in the future for mass amnesty.

You think legal immigration is going to provide low end workers? It means in sourcing high end computer programming, networking, engineering, and most of all, management job taken away from any american with a decent well earning job. And everyone is begging for this, it's fucking crazy.

I hear bunny tastes good with BBQ sauce so at the very least have some of that stocked up.

Izzy.
"be excellent to each other"
_"Bill" S. Preston Esq and "Ted" Theodore Logan.
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baddeddie wrote
Really, all this fuss over politics? The presidential race breaks down to whether or not you want socialist/communist/Bilderberger NWO globalist governing or Constitutionalism/nationalist type governing. I take the 2nd option and that leaves you no choice but Trump. I agree with Izzy that he is a complete fucking asshole and don't like him one bit.

All the trade agreements have drained from the American bathtub and allowed the corporations to turn their back on who made them great in the first place by shipping jobs overseas.  Trump says he'll end that bullshit.

Border Security: You have no country if it doesn't have borders. Trump say he'll secure the borders. That's what I want.

The only thing wrong with the immigration system is the willful treason acts of not enforcing the policy. 95,000,000 adult age Americans out of the labor force. 65,000,000 immigrants working in this country. Why do we need more immigrants if we can't take care of our own citizenry?

enough for now,
 
BaddEddie
This I can understand. Choosing the less of two weasels. If your going to vote do that.

But, I have jumped on that "Hope" bandwagon in Mexico with these last presidential elections. First time I have ever voted, first time i have ever really given politics some research. It's all a bunch of BS.

Psychologically, the US is in the midst of a rude awakening, a very rude one at that. Americans used to be the most responsibly self reliant people on earth, that turned into complete compliance and belief in your government, then into dependence, then into a nanny state for the majority of the population.

Third world countries are corrupt because the people do not have control of their government, they do not deserve anything but to be fleeced, and fleeced they are like cattle, they are cattle. America has just joined the club.The sooner you accept it and let go of patriotism for your new found slaughter house the sooner you can move on and become free and responsibly self reliant once again.

You people are citizens of this universe, think like one and act like one. If you ride the wave even a tsunami can be enjoyable.

Nothing wrong with voting for who you think should be POTUS, thinking they will fix your problems is denial. Facing reality, is looking in the mirror.

Izzy.
"be excellent to each other"
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baddeddie
izarith wrote
baddeddie wrote
Really, all this fuss over politics? The presidential race breaks down to whether or not you want socialist/communist/Bilderberger NWO globalist governing or Constitutionalism/nationalist type governing. I take the 2nd option and that leaves you no choice but Trump. I agree with Izzy that he is a complete fucking asshole and don't like him one bit.

All the trade agreements have drained from the American bathtub and allowed the corporations to turn their back on who made them great in the first place by shipping jobs overseas.  Trump says he'll end that bullshit.

Border Security: You have no country if it doesn't have borders. Trump say he'll secure the borders. That's what I want.

The only thing wrong with the immigration system is the willful treason acts of not enforcing the policy. 95,000,000 adult age Americans out of the labor force. 65,000,000 immigrants working in this country. Why do we need more immigrants if we can't take care of our own citizenry?

enough for now,
 
BaddEddie
This I can understand. Choosing the less of two weasels. If your going to vote do that.

But, I have jumped on that "Hope" bandwagon in Mexico with these last presidential elections. First time I have ever voted, first time i have ever really given politics some research. It's all a bunch of BS.

Psychologically, the US is in the midst of a rude awakening, a very rude one at that. Americans used to be the most responsibly self reliant people on earth, that turned into complete compliance and belief in your government, then into dependence, then into a nanny state for the majority of the population.

Third world countries are corrupt because the people do not have control of their government, they do not deserve anything but to be fleeced, and fleeced they are like cattle, they are cattle. America has just joined the club.The sooner you accept it and let go of patriotism for your new found slaughter house the sooner you can move on and become free and responsibly self reliant once again.

You people are citizens of this universe, think like one and act like one. If you ride the wave even a tsunami can be enjoyable.

Nothing wrong with voting for who you think should be POTUS, thinking they will fix your problems is denial. Facing reality, is looking in the mirror.

Izzy.
Izzy,

If it weren't for Lou's words that things will get better after the bump in the road, I'd have no hope whatsoever. It's quite obvious to me, I and a lot other elderly folk in the country have no future to look forward to. Our lives have been turned upside down and the spike in the suicide rate started in 2008 and continues to increase. We've been getting screwed in this country since I became politically aware. To turn the fucking mess around, ya gotta start somewhere. Lou clued us in that we won't have a one world government for a long, long time, only after the ETs reveal themselves. We are already seeing signs of nationalism becoming a priority for many people around the globe. A lot of things need to change but it has to start somewhere Izzy. So yea, I probably am wasting my fucking time but one has to do what they hope will be the start of turning things in the right direction for the betterment of us all.

I check the list of attendee's at this year's Bilderberg meeting, and Mexico has a nice array of attendees...

  http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/

 http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html

Peace out!

Eddie
"Eye See" said the blind squirrel
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izarith
baddeddie wrote
izarith wrote
baddeddie wrote
Really, all this fuss over politics? The presidential race breaks down to whether or not you want socialist/communist/Bilderberger NWO globalist governing or Constitutionalism/nationalist type governing. I take the 2nd option and that leaves you no choice but Trump. I agree with Izzy that he is a complete fucking asshole and don't like him one bit.

All the trade agreements have drained from the American bathtub and allowed the corporations to turn their back on who made them great in the first place by shipping jobs overseas.  Trump says he'll end that bullshit.

Border Security: You have no country if it doesn't have borders. Trump say he'll secure the borders. That's what I want.

The only thing wrong with the immigration system is the willful treason acts of not enforcing the policy. 95,000,000 adult age Americans out of the labor force. 65,000,000 immigrants working in this country. Why do we need more immigrants if we can't take care of our own citizenry?

enough for now,
 
BaddEddie
This I can understand. Choosing the less of two weasels. If your going to vote do that.

But, I have jumped on that "Hope" bandwagon in Mexico with these last presidential elections. First time I have ever voted, first time i have ever really given politics some research. It's all a bunch of BS.

Psychologically, the US is in the midst of a rude awakening, a very rude one at that. Americans used to be the most responsibly self reliant people on earth, that turned into complete compliance and belief in your government, then into dependence, then into a nanny state for the majority of the population.

Third world countries are corrupt because the people do not have control of their government, they do not deserve anything but to be fleeced, and fleeced they are like cattle, they are cattle. America has just joined the club.The sooner you accept it and let go of patriotism for your new found slaughter house the sooner you can move on and become free and responsibly self reliant once again.

You people are citizens of this universe, think like one and act like one. If you ride the wave even a tsunami can be enjoyable.

Nothing wrong with voting for who you think should be POTUS, thinking they will fix your problems is denial. Facing reality, is looking in the mirror.

Izzy.
Izzy,

If it weren't for Lou's words that things will get better after the bump in the road, I'd have no hope whatsoever. It's quite obvious to me, I and a lot other elderly folk in the country have no future to look forward to. Our lives have been turned upside down and the spike in the suicide rate started in 2008 and continues to increase. We've been getting screwed in this country since I became politically aware. To turn the fucking mess around, ya gotta start somewhere. Lou clued us in that we won't have a one world government for a long, long time, only after the ETs reveal themselves. We are already seeing signs of nationalism becoming a priority for many people around the globe. A lot of things need to change but it has to start somewhere Izzy. So yea, I probably am wasting my fucking time but one has to do what they hope will be the start of turning things in the right direction for the betterment of us all.
Sound completely reasonable to me. Your doing what you think is best.

I get down on Jrock because I can smell the hype he is caught in, and what I say to him is not to change his mind, that cannot be done, it's for after the hype is gone. At that point he should remember that it happens to the best of us, fool me once type of deal.

Hope is hope, we just keep putting it in others instead of ourselves. Life is really simple and not so tense once you try to live on your own terms.

Oh, and I said you were a citizen of the universe, don't bog yourself to the level of this one little shitty as planet that you'er currently stuck on. You are a citizen of this whole fucking UNIVERS!

baddeddie wrote
I check the list of attendee's at this year's Bilderberg meeting, and Mexico has a nice array of attendees...

  http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/

 http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html

Peace out!

Eddie
I checked could not find them, maybe I'm not looking right. Any chance you can copy and past their names. I wanna see who these fuckers are.

Izzy.
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Hey Izzy,

I was being a little bit sarcastic about Mexico's attendees of which I couldn't find any either. I've done a quick search this morning and couldn't find that Mexico has ever had any attendees. Why or what that means, I'm not sure.

Eddie
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Re: Lets Talk Politics

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speaking of politics, i had a crazy dream about donald trump.  long story short he won the presidency and right after he made all citizens get citizen i.d. chips implanted into their right wrists. that was the only way you could enter or leave a store or anywhere else by sticking your wrist under a scanner by the door of all establishments.  there was more to it than that but that was the gist of it.


"...  stay sound my friend(s)."

-willy a.k.a. willy
"...  eyes above the horizon, in the dark before the dawn."
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jrock
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"Really, all this fuss over politics?

It happens. Sleeper's old political threads were very exciting ie"Nancy Pelosi and her merry band .. will steal" showed real passion and Alex Jones has to be physically restrained because it's so "overwhelming" lol. The battle for light and dark that's been going on for eons here. More tech vs austerity.


"I agree with Izzy that he is a complete fucking asshole and don't like him one bit.


Does it have to be the sum total of your argument against him? Saying someone stinks and you hate them? I want something better. Izzy doesn't like his hair either from memory, is it a trivial nuance thing that sets you off Ed? Trump thinks he can scale back OS commitments, protecting foreign countries for free but the bases in Okinawa for example will be untouchable once ET gets in his ear?


Izzy
" Trump owes about 1 billion in credit/dept. But think about all of his customers that purchase his products on dept.


Exactly and the small amounts he does owe on certain buildings are in the realms of owes 60mill renovated for 80.



"Not all but, the 61 who are out must be grateful.

But they, along with many, many more will be back when Trump is in office.


 
Won't Mexico be better off without all the migrants and crime coming through and from Honduras and back?



"The US is stuck with all of those legal immigrants, Illegal immigrants are eventually shipped back if they become criminals.

I don't know how he plans to deport illegals Izz, I think Jeff Sessions might be more to the right on the issue but I'm not sure.



"I hear bunny tastes good with BBQ sauce so at the very least have some of that stocked up.


Lol Izz-one bunny left that won't get you to Mars where we can live on Bigfoot dung- "no catching them" "rats and mice" polar bears and all the rest :)

 

 "But, I have jumped on that "Hope" bandwagon in Mexico with these last presidential elections. First time I have ever voted, first time i have ever really given politics some research. It's all a bunch of BS.


Did you vote conservative and get let down? Here in Aust we haven't had enough of socialist governments for some reason and the polls are close.




"I get down on Jrock because I can smell the hype he is caught in, and what I say to him is not to change his mind, that cannot be done, it's for after the hype is gone. At that point he should remember that it happens to the best of us, fool me once type of deal.


A two term Trump presidency followed by the goddess Ivanka in 2024 is too much to hope for but the movement has started.


Willy- Lol!!
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baddeddie
I really don't give a fuck what you think Jrock about my opinion on politics. I've only been around the block a few hundred more times than you have when it come to this shit and have had to put up with seeing and listening to that mother fuckin asshole Trump for decades. I'm not getting into a pissing contest with a guy who fuckin thinks he knows it all about everything. Its your way or the highway when it comes to discussions, not once have you back tracked on anything when it comes to this forum, makes me wonder if you look at anything from a different perspective other than your own.
"Eye See" said the blind squirrel
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jrock


I really don't give a fuck what you think Jrock about my opinion on politics. I've only been around the block a few hundred more times than you have when it come to this shit and have had to put up with seeing and listening to that mother fuckin asshole Trump for decades.


Lol exactly, you can't properly word why you don't like Trump and default to immature name calling. You want respect because your old and old people know better so there's a crappy stale attitude by anyone's book?





" makes me wonder if you look at anything from a different perspective other than your own.

Same back at you, what other subjects do you think you have sole right to speak about? This isn't Russia mate. When you can verbalize properly why you see fault in Trump feel free to inform us what it is because it's hard to resolve what your problem is other than childish slander. The easy/dumb way out.

As you declined to talk properly and without fact, it's obvious your too old and eccentric to change. I hope the next generation doesn't have to hear your take on politics because it's foul, jaded and empty.


 
"I really don't give a fuck what you think Jrock about my opinion on politics.

Then go and sit down somewhere, this isn't the thread for you.



" mother fuckin asshole


 Pathetic.
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jrock
Here's what set Eddie off obviously when confronted with real reasons he hates Trump. His language is likely the result of his upbringing that was different to mine thankfully. A reflection on his parents. Go read what you wrote to me to your father, they're listening upstairs besides.

Don't freak out again Eddie it's not Trump's hair but a caterpillar!

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I have never liked Trump because he thinks he god's gift to mankind, is better than anybody else on the planet, egotistical, arrogant, thinks he knows it all,  you know, just your basic big fuckin rich asshole like you've spoken about one of your rich relatives to me. There are people you like and don't like for your personal reasons and I have the right to like or not like anybody I choose for whatever reason, just like you, whether you like it or not, and don't have to justify to you why I choose to do so. Go fly a kite like the idiot you can be sometimes Jrock. You young babes in the woods with an ocean still behind your naive ears who believes that Trump can do all these things by himself without any help/cooperation from Congress and others. Good luck with that!! And the leftists/Democrats/progressives/socialists/communists/criminal illegal aliens collectively are already talking about getting violent with riots and such just like they have done many times in the past and there are many of them. There is a lot of horse shit to wade through between now and the election. Anything can happen in that time. Like right now, The Bilderberg Group is currently meeting in Germany and "discussing" Trump is on their agenda. They don't like his "nationalist" approach to things obviously since they are the ones trying to enact globalism. That group's members wealth is enormous and I'm pretty sure some big money will be spent by them on whatever plan they come up to stop him, and they are ruthless people, will Trump still be alive come November? From what I'm hearing, a criminal indictment of Hillary should be forthcoming. Even though she is the default nominee, will she be running in November?

I've been through all this politics horseshit for many decades and am tired of discussing it because no matter what has been said and promised by politicians of either party has been a bunch of bull shit while they enact laws that have favored the rich and powerful and screwed the average citizen like myself.
It is going to take more than words for me to get excited about anything, like somebody doing something for the benefit of us for a change. Izzy and I have our attitudes for a damn good reason, you should learn something for a change instead of going off half-cocked without thinking things through. The world of politics in this country is just as corrupt as any other in the world. You're acting like we live in some idealist utopian world the way you talk about this stuff. But, like most, you'll go through learning about politics the hard way with all of the disappointments you'll endure. Oh, yea, but that"s why you got off of Oz politics, because it is so fucked up thinking that USA politics is any better.

I'll continue to say what I please irregardless if it offends you, you don't like it, whatever the case may be. I started this thread and start your own if you can't handle or have hurt feelings because I don't kiss your ass on how you view the political spectrum. I would have stayed on the sideline to begin with but you in your infinite wisdom encouraged me to get involved and say something but now that it has turned into something you don't like you want me to go sit down. That's childish Jrock, the world doesn't revolve around you, this is politics and there isn't anything nice about it. Play the game or you get off the train.
"Eye See" said the blind squirrel
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